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Sydney_Iron 12:58 Tue Apr 5
UEFA propose FA Cup winners get CL spot (conditional)

UEFA want to give the FA Cup winners a CL spot BUT only if they have the right credentials!!!! That is a BIG CLUB with a history of European football, if a smaller team win it (basically everyone bar the big 6) then it doesn’t apply it’s off to the Europa League as is now.

UEFA = Bunch of cunts

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fa-cup-champions-league-rule-26619156

nychammer 2:11 Tue Apr 5
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This is dated 2 April so it its either a day late or a load of speculative bollocks, not because I wouldn't put it beyond the old boys firm who run the game, but because I cannot possibly think this they can imagine would have chance of passing muster without another populist fan uproar. Very much the same reaction to the ESL 6 footballing insurrection, for which we are still waiting for our spineless authorities to hand out the punishment.

Hammer-ed 2:24 Tue Apr 5
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Complete Bollocks!

That mean the Continental/ European Football Associations would want their cup winners to be in the Champions League.

legrandefromage 2:28 Tue Apr 5
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The UEFA Coefficient League

Sydney_Iron 2:41 Tue Apr 5
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"This is dated 2 April so it its either a day late or a load of speculative bollocks"

No, it’s neither, discussed on Talksport today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAOsi5oO-Wk

And even Karen Brady has called it Putinesque!

Nagel 9:28 Tue Apr 5
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It's not really what it seems from the article.

This is basically about getting the additional 4 teams to make up 36 in total. In UEFA's own words, two places are awarded to: "the two clubs with the highest club coefficients that have not qualified automatically for the Champions League’s league stage, but have qualified either for the Champions League qualification phase or the Europa League/the Europa Conference League."

So, this could be an FA cup winner, or the 5th or 6th place PL team, or no English team at all, if clubs from other countries qualifying for the EL/ECL have higher coefficients. As all the European league tables stand now, the 2 places would go to Roma and Arsenal, regardless of who wins the FA cup.

I suppose this proposal is probably better for West Ham than the likely alternative, which would be these extra places going to foreign teams, although currently it would require 2 of the big 6 not even qualifying for the ECL, which seems unlikely. As it stands we're currently below Wolves and Leicester in the coefficient rankings, but that will change if we go further in the EL.

daveyg 9:53 Tue Apr 5
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They've already started this process by the EL being a free ride for the CL teams who get elimanted from that competition early on.
By creating the CONFERENCE CUP they have said to the wanna b's of Europe "here's a competition for you to go and play with we're looking after the elite".
They've been really sneaky in adopting this competion and making the EL less accessible.
I haven't heard any media mention one thing about the change in format. As long as the big 6 get in the EL or CL they don't care.
They are all hypocrites supposedly loving the romance of the FA Cup but loving it with the semi finals involving the top 3. Another boring City v Liverpool bore fest. Klopp playing down that they are favourites.
WOULD LOVE IT,LOVE IT if Man Utd don't make Europe. Wouldn't that be ironic.

RoyalDocksGK 10:55 Tue Apr 5
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Basically another rule they're taking from the proposed super League bollox then.

Footballs a joke now. Got refs using computers and still fucking it up weekly. Corruption with owners. Lower league teams going into administration every season.

Nagel 11:00 Tue Apr 5
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Nagel 9:28 Tue Apr 5

Actually, as things now stand, unless Palace win the FA cup then Man Utd could go through to the CL in place of Arsenal, even if they finish 7th.

That would be pretty ridiculous.

JayeMPee 11:27 Tue Apr 5
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Yet another indicator as to how totally corrupt football has become, no doubt in my mind this is another capitulation to the so called big six for not withdrawing from the premiership. Next season 5 subs which benefits the big money spenders, the following season an extra place in the Champions League provided you have form (history) in European competitions.

They should have been kicked out of the Premiership when they announced their plans to set up the 'super league' but sky would have withdrawn some financial support which no doubt would have hit the pockets of those who administer the game. Sickening, and no doubt more major rule changes to follow.

New Jersey 11:38 Tue Apr 5
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I really wish that Super league had gone ahead, we would be much better without them cunts. It would be us and Wolves fighting it out and we could even get the Jocks to join the league.

Nagel 11:49 Tue Apr 5
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I don't think it's only about capitulation to the super league wannabes. UEFA stand to make a lot of dosh out of the new format and were already making plans for something like this. 100 extra CL games and more elite vs elite games = €€€.

All clubs will play at least 10 games in the CL and EL, up to 17 or even 19, which will probably cause problems for PL and League cup match scheduling. Won't be much room for midweek games.

Side of Ham 11:53 Tue Apr 5
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So if Forest or Ipswich ever win the FA Cup do they get a spot in the CL as they've actually won the top European trophies? One of them has actually won the league as opposed to coming 2nd/3rd/4th..........it's there in football history.....where did this ground zero come from?

Nagel 11:54 Tue Apr 5
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Side, UEFA co-efficients are based on the last 5 seasons.

Mad Dog 11:54 Tue Apr 5
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Utter horse shit.

Fa cup winner should get CL spot.

It shouldn't matter which team it is.

It's that simple

Side of Ham 11:57 Tue Apr 5
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Nigel that's what I'm saying who decided this 5 year ground zero in football history? You can't just wipe it out as history then won't have a chance of repeating itself.

Side of Ham 11:58 Tue Apr 5
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Sorry mate *Nagel

Nagel 11:58 Tue Apr 5
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I reckon most people would say that the idea that the FA cup winner should get a CL spot at all is what is utter horse shit. It will rarely happen though, if ever.

Nagel 12:02 Tue Apr 5
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Side, it's not wiping out history though, is it? Giving clubs any kind of seeding based on what they were like 50 years ago is absurd.

Side of Ham 12:07 Tue Apr 5
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History says Forest have lifted the biggest trophy in European football twice, three out of the current top 6 in the PL have never won it........one of them has never even one the PL and another only once.....funny how it's twisted to suit......

Side of Ham 12:08 Tue Apr 5
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*won

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